PTP.010: “Going Beyond Desperation by Going Deeper” with Author Frank Viola

Helping people go beyond their desperation by seeking a deeper journey in their inner spiritual life is the theme of Episode 010 of the Pathway to Promise Podcast with Dr. Brad Miller.

In Episode 010 Dr. Brad talks with Christian author, blogger, podcaster Frank Viola. Frank Viola is the author of over 25 books including the “Jesus Manifesto,” “From Eternity to Here”, and the upcoming release “Insurgence-Reclaiming the Gospel of The Kingdom”

Dr. Brad and Frank go deep on a number of topics including the hunger and thirst for meaningfulness in life that many people have; where many people asked the question “there must be more?” The conversation that Frank and Brad have about this question of meaninglessness responds by offering various means of which people can go deeper in their search for a meaningfulness in their life.

Viola contends that many people see the spiritual life as supplemental to their everyday life much like many people supplement their everyday life with music or sports. This pattern of being content with superficial spirituality is often supported by the preaching and teaching of many pastors and spiritual leaders from which many people repeat as a comforting form of spirituality which works much of the time. Viola compares this to “taking swimming lessons on dry ground.”

The rub comes when people face crisis moments, moments of desperation, in which superficial spirituality is inadequate. It is in these moments of desperation that Viola tells Brad that people will either turn away from the Lord and spirituality or seek a deeper experience or journey toward the Lord. It is at this point that personal revelation can take place. It is no longer a matter of learning theoretically about the spiritual journey it is experiencing personally the incoming of Christ living in the person as described in Galatians 2:20 “I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.”

Viola shares that his ministry is all about desperate souls who are exhausted and hungry and seek a deeper journey of meaningfulness in their spiritual life.

Viola goes on to describe his own battles with overwhelm, lack of focus and lack of direction and how he took a systematic approach to deal with these challenges and become a prolific producer of content related to the deeper spiritual life. Indeed, Viola has created an online course which outlines in detail his processes and practices on productivity.

Frank tells Brad about how much credence he puts on the incoming of the spiritual power of God in his life to achieve an abundant life. This supersedes “the good life” which many people aspire to based on the acquisition of worldly things and puts primacy on seeking “the abundant life” (John 10:10) which Viola states “blows this soot out of the good life.”

Frank talks to Dr. Brad about the importance of emotional human relationships as the habitat in which the deeper connection to the spiritual realm takes place. The deeper journey cannot be acquired solely on its own; a connection with other people is indispensable. This includes spouses and family members as well as mentors both living and historically through reading and learning about influential people from the past. Moreover, Viola introduces the concept of “vital editable relationships.” An “editable relationship” is deeper than an accountability partner and is a person who can speak into your life to help correction to take place.

Another form of vital relationship building that Viola introduces us to in this podcast is the use of mastermind groups for the kingdom of God. Mastermind groups are relatively common in the entrepreneurial world but much less so in the world of ministry leaders and pastors. Viola has led several ministry mastermind groups and has found these small group experiences are dramatically effective in helping these leaders achieve breakthroughs in their ministry and in their personal lives. He finds there is a certain synergy and crowdsource wisdom in ministry masterminds which helps the participants to identify how they want to be different and how they can solve their present problems to achieve their goals. Viola leads ministry mastermind groups on a regular basis and offers the listener a way to connect with this opportunity at

Dr. Brad Miller and Frank Viola present a myriad of practical tips, strategies, and inspiration for the person desperate to break disparaging patterns in their present life and seek out their promised life of peace, prosperity, and purpose by going on a deeper journey in their spiritual life. This is an important episode of The Pathway to Promise Podcast which can be used as a great resource for those willing to take the plunge into the deeper life.

The Pathway to Promise Podcast is designed with the understanding that every person has a God-given promise life of peace, prosperity, and purpose and that implementing a planned pathway with the proper guidance can help people to overcome profound life challenges and achieve that promise life.

Dr. Brad Miller teaches on the transforming life and interviews great transformational leaders like Frank Viola weekly onThe Pathway to Promise Podcast.

Dr. Brad Miller, DMin
March 21, 2018

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