162: Proven Steps to Help Christian Business Leaders Grow and Scale Their Business Elegantly Against All Odds with Best Selling Author Kelly Baader “The Christian CEO”

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Kelly Baader is Dr. Brad Miller’s guest on Episode 162 of “The Beyond Adversity Podcast.”

Kelly is the CEO of Influential Entrepreneurs, LLC.

A Kingdom-Advancing Leadership Development Company that empowers you, the Christ-Centered Entrepreneurs to Grow & Scale Your Business Elegantly with Identity-Aligned Positioning, Compassion-Driven Marketing, and Confidence-Fueled Selling. 

In this episode Kelly shared how she overcame abuse and a cultural bias toward baby girls and as a child in a culture which saw women as property.

She talks about how in the business world she faced, racism, sexism and people who purposely placed physical blocks (including the location of ladies rooms) in her way. 

As an entrepreneur and author she faced executives who said she should forget about starting a business because of her accent.

But it seems that in this case states: “Life messed with the wrong girl.”

Because Kelly proclaims that that girl is a child of God and her her mission to achieve her God-given potential would not be denied.

Kelly Baader talks to Dr Brad about how book is “A Little Girl Called Grace” and her podcast “The Christian CEO Podcast came to be in spite of facing the adversity of dealing with the people who would stand in her way. 

Beyond that Kelly talks about her faith journey and love of Jesus Christ and about the people who were helpful in her entrepreneurial journey. All of this lead her to become the CEO of her company “Influential Entrepreneurs LLC,” focusing on advancing Christ centered entrepreneurs with a step by step process she calls the “The Power of One Framework.” 

Kelly Baader’s story is powerful, spiritual, and transformational testament of one who has lived out the pathway of navigating adverse life events and emerged to life of peace, prosperity and purpose. 

Episode 162 of The Beyond Adversity Podcast is a must listen for any spiritually minded Christian Entrepreneur looking for an inspirational story of a woman who succeeded in spite of much adversity and has a plan and share her plan for the others to do the same and become Christian CEO’s in their own right.

“The Beyond Adversity Podcast with Dr. Brad Miller is published weekly with the mission of helping people “Grow Through What They Go Through” as they navigate adversity and discover their promised life of peace, prosperity and purpose. 

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Transcript
Brad Miller:

Dr. Brad Miller here on Beyond Adversity. This

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is the podcast where we help you to grow through what you go

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through. And it's a thrill to day to have a person who is

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going to be very helpful to all of us in processing some

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difficult life experiences and coming out success and

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especially with a Christian mindset, a Christian focus. Her

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name is Kelly Baader. And she is the CEO of Influential

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Entrepreneurs and has the Christian CEO podcast, she has

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an incredibly fascinating story to tell. And she's going to be

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helpful to us today, here on Beyond Adversity. Kelly, welcome

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to the podcast. Thank you for having me. It is awesome to have

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you here. You are quite a successful businesswoman. You're

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in your own right right now. But I know that in your life, that

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has not always been the case, we'll learn more about your

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successes in business in just a minute, particularly, and your

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emphasis as a Christian CEO, but tell us a little bit about your

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background, and particularly Kelly, some of the challenges or

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adversities, you may have faced that you had to become

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successful in your life at this time.

Kelly Baader:

Sure. You know, I was born at a time, the time and

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a place when baby girls were not value much. We were just seeing

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as a future baby production machine, no need to invest us

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anything, especially education. And so growing up there was

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about one and a half decades of my life. Never know what gonna

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happen to me in the night because my mom and her drunken

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boyfriends, so was very dark at that seasonal time. I'm talking

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about family violence, sexual abuse.

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j ust just to clarify, Kelly that was growing

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up, you said the time and the place, could you clarify the

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place where we're talking about?

Kelly Baader:

Well, I was born and raised in Taiwan. And then

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after that, though, while I was you know, after the university,

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and I tried to climb a corporate later that I was in very male

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dominated environment. So you know, in the US, I know that

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also movie called Hidden Figures, and which is a group of

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you know, African American ladies, for me, they are the

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real hero behind the NASA, right the project. And I remember the

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main character, C Catherine, she had to run blocks away, in order

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to go to the ladies room, I kind of experienced a similar

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situation, of course, often I was, I was one of the youngest

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corporate executives, then worse, quote, unquote, worse I,

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I'm a woman. So they were a situation of I went to the

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important business meeting or board meeting, and we don't have

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the ladies room on the same floor. And so that kind of just

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kind of tell you the situation that afterwards, even when I

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want to become an entrepreneur, wrote and publish my own book,

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"A Little Girl Called Grace" in 2012. In those days, there, not

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many podcasts at all. So we had to pitch the traditional media

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like a magazine, or radio stations and TV network. So

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after three and a half months of intensive media training, I went

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to New York now pitch those traditional media outlets, there

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were two very known that just say a journalist, we had the 90

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seconds pitch time to each of them. 30 seconds in this

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gentlemen stop me and told me say this won't work. And I asked

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it Oh, is that because this angle of the pitch of the story

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is not good enough? Or What's the reason? And he told me say,

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you know, you are a big girl since you are in business. I

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think I just should tell you the truth. I said, Yes, please. And

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he told me because you are not American. You are not British.

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English is not your first language. And so I was American,

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I will not read. So that's kind of like, oh, okay, and he said

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he's front of 100 people behind me, right? Even then, I was I

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feel very sad very down and I went back to hotel room, you

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know, cry. But then but then I went home I kind of told God

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will. writing this book is your idea is a personal story. And to

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write is difficult enough to promote is even more difficult.

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So what do you have? What do you have in mind? He said, Well, put

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your marketing hat on go to work. So after that trip, I came

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back and that moment I think Facebook ads just got started.

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So yes, I put my marketing hat on and 60 days campaign we

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launched with Facebook ads. And we hit Amazon bestseller. And in

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60 days, we saw over 13,000 books and then we roll in a mail

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a copy to.

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Wow, did you hear I've just now got to ask, did

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you hear back from him? No, no, of course not because he made

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this point, he probably had his his way of approaching things

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with whomever it was, but particularly with your

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particular circumstance. He just had things that he was going to

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say. And he said it and that was the end of it. Life messed with

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the wrong girl and you did something about it didn't You,

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wow.

Kelly Baader:

Well, I would say, you know, they messed up with

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the wrong girl because the girl has a God. Really. He just like,

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couple years later, in the entrepreneurial journey, similar

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thing happened that, you know, I felt God asked me to start a

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podcast. So now my podcast is over five years now. So about

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five, six years ago, that moment, I was in one of very

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well known business coach programs, and he is so known. He

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wish he shall remain nameless, when he asked me say, Oh, so you

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know, what do you want to do? The next step? And I said, Hey,

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I feel led to start a podcast. And his answer was, Oh, so you

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mean, you want to start a Chinese podcast? I say no,

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because 90% of my clients are in English speaking countries,

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especially in US because we live in us over 10 years. And he

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said, Oh, well, here's the thing, Kelly as American, I

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won't listen to your podcast, because you know, you have such

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a different accent. And I don't think British people will listen

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to your podcast either.

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So you were had these obstacles these challenges

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every step of the way growing up and in business and supposedly

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if you're hiring a coach and dealing with with promotional

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marketing people, you're supposed to people who may want

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to help you because it would help them in their business. But

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you're getting these blocks all the way Wow. So but you went

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through anyhow tell us about some of the steps you went ahead

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and took that help you break through all these what are some

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of the steps what are some of the actions that you took to

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have a breakthrough

Kelly Baader:

I often say that I don't like the phrase called

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self made because it personally I don't believe that a person is

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a self made. Okay. As a Christian first of all I know

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right in the Bible say Who is the one give us a power to

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create wealth? That's number one, right? I know that I cannot

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be where I am today even now because of God. Number two and

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because of when God called us to specific mission right he's a

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grace is over that specific mission. Now that grace also

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mean the resources the connection of the people I got a

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lot of help along the way while there are the naysayers but on

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the other side, you know, I also had people believing me God

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literally speak when I was still in self denial about Okay, come

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on, Lord, I really cannot start a podcast you just you just hear

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what that coach told me. And yet, God has a way that he made

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me to attend a conference in UK this specific year. While most

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of the people in our conference it's awesome British podcasters

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and when God asked me to attend a conference I thought well

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okay, I mean it's great as you know in business is a great way

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to to make connection and also in I was in that mindset, I go

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there to make a lot of friends and connection and all that so

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there was a keynote speaker he he is from us is Dan Miller.

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Yeah so Dan Miller wrote 48 days to do a thing you love

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right. And so there was speaking about you know, the topic I was

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like, couple weeks before that because I look at the speaker

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list so I followed them for a while and so I went to his

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Facebook page and it just happened he posts his lovely

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wife Joann Miller's art and in our talk about Joann gonna have

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this new book come out with one of their granddaughter. So I

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thought, Oh, he is awesome. He will be nice to speak to Joann.

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So so please notice all these is are going inside my heart. I

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didn't speak it out. You know, I did not kind of pray about it or

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anything, right. So when we got to England, in London, actually

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and after that, Dan finished his speech and he gave the five

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minutes my time that people ask question. So if you ask

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question, and I was allowed to raise my hand, I just want to

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ask the questions in nothing do his business. I say, you know,

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Dan, I just really curious that, how do you and Joann manage to

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raise three generations of entrepreneurs from home? That

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was my question. And Dan has a very big smile on his face. And

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he looked at me said, I wish more people asked that question.

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And he say, you know, I can do it better. So I would like my

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wife answer your question, why they now know nobody actually

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know the wife was all the way in the back of the conference hall,

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we had that conference about 300 plus people. So now I saw Joann,

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and just a walk pass by me and went to the front. And be honest

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with your Brad, that moment, whatever she was saying, I did

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not even hear. Because in my mind, I had conversation with

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God. Now, God's kind of telling me that well, you have little

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faith. You don't think I will manage to get her to get to see

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you in person, don't you? So after the conversation, and we

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have a coffee break, and everybody was cued, I want to

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take picture with Dan a speaker, I was standing in distance, and

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I was still in awe of how that just happened. Then they wave me

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over. And then say, Kelly right, you asked that question and say

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yes. And he said, Oh, you know, it's a great question. And then

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Joann asked me what is your podcast. I say, I don't have one

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yet. That sounds like a bit of a God thing sound like a bit of a

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God thing to me, Kelly right there.

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Exactly. That moment, I was like, ah, and then they went on

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to say, Oh, so what is the podcast about? I say, I guess it

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will be something for Christian entrepreneurs. And then it was

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that they really didn't hear my hesitation, as if that they

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didn't really hear that I don't have a podcast just yet. And

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then went on to say, Oh, so do you want to guess? I think

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that's a great topic. Do you want a guest? Do you want us to

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help? I mean, people queue up trying to get Dan to on their

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podcast. Here I am. I don't have one. And they want to be on my

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show.

Brad Miller:

That's awesome. Well, I have the opportunity to

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have Dan on my podcast and actually to meet his daughter

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who is a quite an entrepreneur as well. And so yeah, way to go.

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That's how like a God thing there. And I'm really into that.

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And I know what a huge part of your focus Kelly is taking

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action, you know, and that's what you did. You weren't afraid

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to ask the question. And you had a leading then to take the

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question from a little different angle towards family life and

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towards, towards Joanne, God worked through that in order for

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a new opportunity to come. In fact, your focus, you say you're

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focused and passionate about helping Christian coaches,

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Kingdom Leaders, and service providers to help them grow

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their businesses elegantly. And I love the way you phrase that.

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But let's talk a little bit about this faith based aspect

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and about in your life, about the faith based part about the

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Christian part about the connection to higher power, how

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does that inform you? How does that not only inform, but form

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you and especially in terms of your choice then to really

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target Christian entrepreneurs. Tell us a bit about your faith

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life in terms of being an entrepreneur.

Kelly Baader:

He also started in 2012. And he was when we still

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live in Vegas. And one day on my birthday. In November, about

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five o'clock in the morning, I I have my kind of little routine

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with the Lord on my birthday. I take communion with God with

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God. So that morning, you know, I prepare my elements, my coffee

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and my Bible. And I was standing in kitchen and all of a sudden I

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sense a very strong presence behind my back. Because I

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thought okay, that probably is my husband came downstairs to

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say happy birthday, because that's that real that presence.

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So I even turn around and to see that you know to about greet

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him. But when I turn there was no people.

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So just be clear. You felt that you felt the

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actual physical presence not

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Yeah. Is this somebody is staying so close to

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your back. You were with you, right? And I turned around and

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there was nobody there. So I knew I'm quote, cool. I'm in

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trouble now. Because at the same time, all the sudden, as if

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somebody tried to spray pan around my kitchen, because now

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everything pour, except my Bible is clear. And I also found that

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my knees are shivering, that I need to use my two hands against

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the kitchen counter. In order to still stand still. Then I heard

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the voice Happy Birthday Kelly.

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Oh, it just I just want to make clear you hear like

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an audible voice not like an inner voice, you have some sort

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of an audible voice.

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I feel that I heard audible voice a happy

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birthday, Kelly. And I say thank you. Thank you Abba. And then

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the following question is I wasn't prepared for it. Then he

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asked me, What do you want for your birthday? Our two children

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then they were young. They were in the toddler age. And as

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parents we tried to teach about faith. So about three weeks

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before that day, we kind of wrote down a letter to God,

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right? So kids, they write down whatever they they are believing

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God for all the way from something they know toy to the

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biggest ticket. It's my mother's salvation, because my mother is

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the same woman who kicked me out of the house when I want to

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become a Christian. So that is the biggest item. So when God

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asked me, What do you want for your birthday? I was thinking

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right where I was, while we're thinking about that later,

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somehow I was able to hold back because then I thought if this

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is the only opportunity ever I can answer that question. I

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better think three times before I opened my mouth. My answer was

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okay, Lord, this is gonna sound cheesy. But if you can give King

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Solomon that wisdom, I will lie that too. Also, I like for my

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children

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No greater gift you're gonna ask for than

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wisdome.

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nice. And I sense that he has a very big grin on

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his face. And he told me, since you ask that it is granted. Oh,

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by the way, those things on that letter. also granted now is

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about side note, so about about putting about less than 20 days,

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every single thing on that letter, including my own mother

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salvation, which I pray for over 10 years came to pass

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What a joy, what a joy that has to be

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and then we can back out to the to the kitchen.

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Then God asked me say "do you love me", may I told Lord say,

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Can we skip three times? Right? That just that just have to the

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final times. Either way, you know, my heart, he said, Okay, I

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said, he said after this place, which is Las Vegas, then you

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will still have one place to go. We didn't know we were still

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moved to another place before we came back to Switzerland. And he

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said, usually I want to go after you guys go home, I need you to

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start to put a banner up to vote for Christian entrepreneurs. I

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asked Lord say Why? You know, either at that moment, I have

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clients, both from Christian and non Christians, you know, the

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business was fine was doing well. I was thinking why should

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I you know, nail down to two just for Christian

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entrepreneurs. And, and, and he's, he's here saying he said

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because allow my children don't know how to operate. in the

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marketplace. I was serving inside a church. My husband and

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I we were used to founding members of local church in Las

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Vegas. And two years later God calls I'll say no, now you can

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go back to marketplace because that's your place. And so he

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said, You know how to operate in the marketplace. Because each

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several mountains, right, each single mountain has its own

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measurement stick. So

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you felt this calling then this ad very

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distinctive, I'm understanding you clearly Kelly, from your

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calling on your birthday was for the gift of wisdom. And then the

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mission of that wisdom was to apply it towards Christian folks

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who either had a passion for an entrepreneur, but needed the

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tools needed some marketing expertise, needed some coaching

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in order to accomplish that, because I come from a faith

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based background, Pastor background, nonprofit

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background, and there's just a whole lot of folks in my world,

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our world, if you will, who don't get it who don't know,

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don't have the tools or the means or the tracking to

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accomplish things that way. And sometimes there's even some

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spiritual blocks you saw on you know, I don't want to be a

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prophet and make a profit and so on like this. Am I correct? And

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this is what you find your calling to be. And if that's the

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case, that I do like to hear some of the tools and some of

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the habits some of the practices that you teach people and came

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up with yourself

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what eats the major difference? Walker has

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asked me to do it now can we narrow it down, we focus on what

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we call power, one framework, power of one framework. And that

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even how that came along is not from my own wisdom. It's in any

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No 2019 before I I was invited to speak on a very pretty

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prestigious entrepreneur event in London. Before that, I asked,

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I said, What do you want me to share? Because the speakers were

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all in a list. You know, there was Chris Ducker's Youpreneur

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summit. You know, his phrase, Michael Hyatt, you know, Pat

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Flynn, you know, so I asked, What do you want me to share?

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And God said, just share that one thing that you always have

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your client to break through to the next level, he lost 12 or 14

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years. And so that was a non Christian event. So I had

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watched how I presented, then God gave me that word one. And I

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said. So okay, so that's where how we say, how do you, you

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know, serve your number one client with your number one

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solution. By, the number one communication and by the current

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best version of you. So it's 1-1-1-1. Because most of the

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pieces of marketing program out there, they will tell you go to

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find your avatar and then package your stuff and sell it.

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But they forgot about the very important element is a business

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owner themself. Because we all have those moments of we know

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exactly what we should be doing today. But we cannot pull

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ourselves to do it. There is a gap between where you are now to

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where God is pulling you up to. And that is the identity not

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alligned right there. That's where that we will take that

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part first, before we dive into serving your clients and

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packaging offer.

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And so that's part of the process, you teach on

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your powerofoneframework.com and at your site. KellyBaader. com.

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And, and there are some strategies and some efforts and

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some passion that you have here. And I love the way you had

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talked about the action steps to grow and scale your business

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elegantly. I love love that as well, in terms of how people can

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do this, because I think what you touched on here is where I

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want to go next with you Just for a couple minutes Kelly and

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that's relationships you talked about. You've talked early two

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things you talked about your your kind of your (I like to

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call it your vertical), the vertical your relationship with

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with God, your your inner life, your personal life, that

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presence that was with you. But you've also now talked about how

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that relationship with the entrepreneur themselves and with

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the customer, or with the person that they are serving is

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paramount as well. And I love I think it is a defining part of

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your approach here. Let's talk about that about how the power

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of relationships a motion, that the loving aspect of being an

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entrepreneur, what's important about that, what is what can you

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help teach our audience about that about how that's part of a

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transformation as well, that we have to have that emotional,

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loving, sharing a servant's heart with others,

Kelly Baader:

I think, you know, generally speaking, as

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Christians, we all have a heart We want to help people, right? I

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think what what we are often lacking what I see, it's that

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you don't know how to communicate properly, you you

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know, you have to communicate because we are in living in this

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digital world. And there is no lack of information out there.

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So you really need to work on how you cannot just communicate

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that my mentor John C. Maxwell say how to connect with people

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that happened in your, in your website, the copy that happened

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in your email that that happened to your social media platform,

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your posts are everything. And also you have to really

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genuinely, genuinely care about people right? Because in Kingdom

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principle is all about people. And if you are trying to fake

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it, people can can smell you know, a mile away. So I think

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one of the biggest advantage I always say as Christians

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actually we should be the best marketer out there. Right?

Kelly Baader:

Because we have a so much advantage, you know, from the

Kelly Baader:

basic biblical principle and just look at the Jesus example,

Kelly Baader:

right? He always reach out to different type of people, you

Kelly Baader:

know, he he, he will not just always sit there and let people

Kelly Baader:

come to him, but he will reach out.

Brad Miller:

Love your message, love your passion. But I love I

Brad Miller:

would like to get very pragmatic and personal just for me in this

Brad Miller:

sense here, Kelly, and that is, let's talk about some people

Brad Miller:

that you've served and what I what Beyond Adversity is all

Brad Miller:

about is this transformative process from people being stuck

Brad Miller:

in whatever it is because you could have been stuck anywhere

Brad Miller:

along the line. You could have been stuck as that little girl,

Brad Miller:

you know, with all kinds of family issues. You could have

Brad Miller:

been one of those early business leaders who said you're not

Brad Miller:

going to We'll do that lots of people would stop right there

Brad Miller:

wouldn't you know lots of people would say be blocked right

Brad Miller:

there. But you moved yourself through and now you're working

Brad Miller:

with people who may be facing similar adversities to whatever

Brad Miller:

they are, they may be. Maybe it is being a woman, maybe it's

Brad Miller:

being someone who has life issues. Maybe it's a Christian,

Brad Miller:

who doesn't have a wealth of confidence in the business world

Brad Miller:

in the marketing world. I'd like you to share maybe a story or

Brad Miller:

two at least one about some person or company or some

Brad Miller:

situation that you've worked with or been around that has

Brad Miller:

that you've seen some transformation?

Kelly Baader:

Yeah, I think there are many in our clients

Kelly Baader:

love example, I call them clients love in my website, if

Kelly Baader:

you guys want to see go ahead to you know, have a look. But I now

Kelly Baader:

came to mind I can share because many of them I can share one

Kelly Baader:

came to my right now, it's one of the pianists, she you know,

Kelly Baader:

she's a very special pianist. Because before that kind of

Kelly Baader:

intimate, larger wedding pianist. So she's not only go

Kelly Baader:

there to play music for you, but she also basically compose music

Kelly Baader:

specifically for the couple. So it's very, like a high, highly

Kelly Baader:

tailored and customized service, something like that. So when she

Kelly Baader:

came to me, and she told me, she we got burned out, because, you

Kelly Baader:

know, she had many requests, and by she knew she she doesn't

Kelly Baader:

charge enough fee, in order to do what the highly tailered

Kelly Baader:

service, right, that total, they're gonna take a lot of

Kelly Baader:

energy and resource in a first stab at that. And so I asked

Kelly Baader:

her, so you knew exactly, you need to hire your, you know,

Kelly Baader:

raise your price, and why you your stuck, why you cannot. And

Kelly Baader:

she said, Well, I am afraid that if I charge higher price, I will

Kelly Baader:

lose more clients, and oh, I cannot find new clients. And

Kelly Baader:

this is a very typical and very complex situation, right? And

Kelly Baader:

because the they don't have a confidence to raise their price.

Kelly Baader:

So that moment is not about there's no amount of external

Kelly Baader:

saying about, okay, let's try another tech tactic or

Kelly Baader:

marketing. There are moments precisely we say why we work in

Kelly Baader:

a power One is we need to work from inside out. So we actually

Kelly Baader:

in we instead of from outside, we take an inventory of her, you

Kelly Baader:

know, good and bad, ugly, the experience, but also her

Kelly Baader:

expertise. And we dive into right her past and all the

Kelly Baader:

situations. So then we we through the process to

Kelly Baader:

assessment. And then she realized and opened her eyes and

Kelly Baader:

she realized what she could offer is really a whole lot more

Kelly Baader:

valuable than what she thought is not about the money, the

Kelly Baader:

money, the price tag, we can put it on, there's no problem. But

Kelly Baader:

until you feel comfortable, comfortable with it. So after we

Kelly Baader:

walked by, like three weeks in, and then there was opportunity,

Kelly Baader:

she cannot go to a place like a little similar audition, a lot

Kelly Baader:

of couples will be there. She did her thing. And then in the

Kelly Baader:

end, of course people asked her about her price. Then she

Kelly Baader:

created a new set of price sheet. And then she explained to

Kelly Baader:

the Okay, this is a package of one and two and three, and she

Kelly Baader:

upped the prices three times then the price the original

Kelly Baader:

price. And then she got orders on the spot booked. And she was

Kelly Baader:

so excited that it was we're talking about 16,000 British

Kelly Baader:

pounds.

Brad Miller:

We're not just about an incremental we're

Brad Miller:

coming to a significant increase right

Kelly Baader:

now was the three x for that . Okay, so and then

Kelly Baader:

she was so excited, she came back to our small group, a

Kelly Baader:

mastermind, she told us, you know, what a breakthrough of

Kelly Baader:

that, but I think she was in tears is not that tears is not

Kelly Baader:

for the price. But it's like she finally could see

Brad Miller:

it, affirm it affirmed her value, you know,

Brad Miller:

when we receive compensation, whether it's monetary

Brad Miller:

compensation or an accolade of some sort, or even a hug from my

Brad Miller:

granddaughter, that is an affirmation of my value. And so

Brad Miller:

what I'm hearing you say here, Kelly, is it. Your teaching and

Brad Miller:

your coaching is about helping people to transform and value

Brad Miller:

themselves as a child of God, and also someone who offers

Brad Miller:

value to other people. And that's, I love your part. You

Brad Miller:

say here, one part is compassion driven marketing. And that's not

Brad Miller:

only about compassion about others, it's about yourself,

Brad Miller:

isn't it?

Kelly Baader:

Yeah, because for me pricing, it's about honor.

Kelly Baader:

Both your clients and your own value is not Just a number

Brad Miller:

transformative thing we're talking about here

Brad Miller:

and I really appreciate it and and you're speaking to an

Brad Miller:

audience that I think in some ways is underserved, meaning

Brad Miller:

Christians who are in the marketplace and want to really

Brad Miller:

thrive in the marketplace. And I think that there's a great value

Brad Miller:

of that. I thank you for your service. Her name is Kelly

Brad Miller:

Bader. She is the CEO of Influential Entrepreneurs, LLC.

Brad Miller:

Kelly, if folks want to reach out to you and make a connection

Brad Miller:

with you, how can they do so?

Kelly Baader:

everywhere in the social media is Kelly Baader and

Kelly Baader:

the last name is special is my husband law is a German name

Kelly Baader:

BAADER. And if you're one of those people that you

Kelly Baader:

interesting about power framework, and just go to

Kelly Baader:

powerofframework.com/ masterclass. And because there's

Kelly Baader:

a free masterclass that you can learn from, and we can go from

Kelly Baader:

there.

Brad Miller:

And we'll put connections to all of those

Brad Miller:

things on our show notes of DrBradMiller.com. Our special

Brad Miller:

guest today on the beyond adversity podcast. She's

Brad Miller:

involved with a number of things. Her book is "A Little

Brad Miller:

Girl Called Grace". Her her podcast is the Christian CEO

Brad Miller:

podcast. And she is a CEO of Influential Entrepreneurs LLC,

Brad Miller:

focusing on advancing Christ centered entrepreneurs, among

Brad Miller:

other folks, our guest today on the beyond adversity podcast

Brad Miller:

with Dr. Brad Miller. We are so thankful to have Kelly Baader

Brad Miller:

with us today.

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Thank you, Kelly.

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