184: Reverse Diabetes, Manage Pain and Gain Optimal Health with Dr. Gurpreet Padda from the Dr. Padda institute
Dr. Gurpreet Padda is Dr. Brad Miller’s guest on Episode 184 of “The Beyond Adversity Podcast.”
Dr. Gurpreet is an Entrepreneur, Real Estate Investor, and Physician who specializes in Pain Management and focuses on metabolic inflammation.
In this episode, Dr. Gurpreet shares the importance of healthy living and how pharmaceutical companies control the narrative towards “healthy living.”
Dr. Gurpreet believes that the reason why many people get lost in the world of addiction is not because of the drug itself, but the fear, despondency, and loss of hope. Drugs are not enough for people to get themselves involved with. It’s the loss of hope and future that makes people get addicted to it.
He also explains that the existence of hyper-processed stored foods created bad habits and heavily influenced our way of living. Dr. Gurpreet hopes that people can get back into eating “organic” foods, just like how they helped their community in St. Louis by developing a local garden system integrated in urban core systems.
Pharmaceutical companies have controlled the narrative of healthy living. Because of how “dietary pills” and “food supplements” are being marketed on television through advertisements, it will be inevitable for people to cast self-doubt and insecurity to themselves.
Finally, Dr. Gurpreet’s community has come together to evangelize the importance of a healthy life. By sharing their success stories in front of everyone and assisting them to their needs to fully maximize and realize their cause, Dr. Gurpreet and his community is on a journey towards healthier and satisfied life!
Episode 184 of the Beyond Adversity Podcast encourages anyone who had been trapped and lost all of their hopes to start believing. There are people who can help you and you are not alone in this bitter fight against destiny. Have a leap of faith and be inspired by people who thought everything was gone until they rose back and fight for the things they believed in!
“The Beyond Adversity Podcast with Dr. Brad Miller is published weekly with the mission of helping people “Grow Through What They Go Through” as they navigate adversity and discover their promised life of peace, prosperity, and purpose.
Links:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gurpreet-padda/overlay/contact-info/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/redpillkapital/
Websites:
- https://redpillkapital.com/
- https://painmd.tv/
- https://reversingdiabetesmd.com/
- http://addictionology.center/
Transcript
We welcome to to our beyond adversity audience today.
Dr. Brad Miller:We welcome Dr. Gurpreet Padda.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I really appreciate it. Thanks for hosting me. Well, it
Dr. Brad Miller:is indeed a privilege to have you with us
Dr. Brad Miller:here on Beyond adversity. And we'd love to
Dr. Brad Miller:hear a little bit about the background of our guest.
Dr. Brad Miller:And you shared with me a bit of your background.
Dr. Brad Miller:It's a fascinating background. Because when we talk about we're going to talk about health matters.
Dr. Brad Miller:Of course, but everything's interrelated to your own experience.
Dr. Brad Miller:Tell us little bit about your experience, how you came up, grew up,
Dr. Brad Miller:and then eventually led you towards the field of medicine.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah, so I, I grew up in India, I moved to the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:United States when I was about nine years old.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And when we moved to the US, I grew up in the urban downtown
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:St. Louis area, which we commonly in
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:affectionately called the ghetto. I grew up in India,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in the state of Punjab, and went through a lot of time
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:periods where there was a lot of uncertainty in our
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:future, because Pakistan and India were fighting.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And their main zone of fighting was the fields that
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:were in my backyard in India. So we I grew up in an
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:area that was very tumultuous, and we had relocated to the US.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Because my father and mother both work for the US government.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:My father was a physicist, my mother was a statistician, a mathematician.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so we've relocated the US, eventually. And so that's how I got here.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I always had a sense, because I'm see i and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:most of India is Hindu, and Pakistan was Muslim. And I got to the US,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and I was the only kid that wasn't black in my school.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And there were no white kids. And so I always had an opportunity
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to look at the situation as an outsider, and examine and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:study it, and spent a lot of time because I was very inward,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I was very introspective. I had a lot of time to, to look at my environment,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in all situations that I was in, to study it and to get a better understanding.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So that's, that's essentially, that was my formative period.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:At the same time, I had come from an area that was extremely
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:socialist or near communist in India, and you couldn't get food,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you didn't have food security, unless you had a voucher.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so I grew up under a semi communist regime, India was at that point,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:attempting to become more communist.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:In fact, my first books that I read, were in Russian at the Chandigarh
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:embassy for the Chinese or Russian Embassy.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So I'm coming to the US, you guys had everything.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so I was fascinated by the capitalism of the United States.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so that allowed me to, to experience firsthand what
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it was to have an open market system.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I loved science. And so I was able to excel in that,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and ended up in medical school, eventually.
Dr. Brad Miller:What an incredible story. And you really,
Dr. Brad Miller:I'm sure you and as a as a boy of nine or
Dr. Brad Miller:10 years old, had to have incredible culture shock going from a
Dr. Brad Miller:place of war and devastation and, and you saw your share
Dr. Brad Miller:of death even as a youngster and, and lack to coming to a
Dr. Brad Miller:place of relative abundance, and also all the other opportunities
Dr. Brad Miller:that came before you. And yet you've seen how the world of
Dr. Brad Miller:abundance has its problems as well, haven't you? And that's,
Dr. Brad Miller:and I'd like to talk to you a little bit about some of the things
Dr. Brad Miller:that we have going on in our world right now. And especially
Dr. Brad Miller:from your perspective, as a doctor who specializes in health
Dr. Brad Miller:and fitness and mental health, and things like addiction,
Dr. Brad Miller:you have a real emphasis on addiction.
Dr. Brad Miller:In fact, one of your websites is addictionology dot center.
Dr. Brad Miller:And so tell us I just kind of interested doctor because sometimes
Dr. Brad Miller:we glide over things. We hear the word addiction used a lot.
Dr. Brad Miller:But what is addiction? How do you define it? How do we recognize it?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So addiction, in its classic sense, is a desire for the human being,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to use a substance for a purpose in which it was not intended.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So for example, let's say that I break my leg and somebody
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:prescribes me a pain medicine for my broken leg. Well, that's a problem.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Use of that medication. Let's say that that injury has healed but
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I like the feelings that that pain medication gives me. And now
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I start to use the pain medication because I get a feeling that's different.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Well, now I'm inappropriately using the medication.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And that would be technically the term addiction.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Because now I've used the medication which in which it was not intended,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and it's affecting my life. So certainly, it's the use of a medication.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But addiction is more than that. And I think that I think that we need
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to have a different circumspect, so my area of medical specialty,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:initially was surgery, then it was anesthesia, then was interventional pain.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And that's what I've spent the last 25 years on is dealing with
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:interventional pain, but in order to get a better grasp of interventional pain,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I realized that a lot of my patients were morbidly obese, they
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:were pre-diabetic or diabetic. And then I realized a chunk of them
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:had some addiction issues as well. So I ended up having
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to uncover what area especially I'm truly in. And what I ended up
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:doing was looking at it and discovering that what I was dealing with, as a conglomeration was metabolic inflammation.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so my areas of focus are interventional pain, addiction, and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:obesity slash diabetes type two. And that combined is called metabolic
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:inflammation. So that's that's kind of what I do.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Now addiction. And I'm very particular, because I don't know if you
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:recall the, the Korean War, the Vietnam conflicts, the Korean conflicts,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:we had a lot of G eyes that were over there.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And about 50% of them, were experimenting with pot opium,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they were experimenting with poppy, and a good chunk of them,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:were believably addicted. And half of them were using a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:medication in a way that it was not intended. So technically,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the term is they were addicted. And one of our biggest fears was
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that when we repatriated the soldiers back to the United States,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they were gonna come back, and we're gonna have these
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:zombies walking on the streets, doing heroin. But that's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:not what happened. What happened was that when we
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:repatriated the soldiers, and they came back into the United States,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:only three or 4% of them use drugs, when they were back in the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:US were 50%. And we're using it there. So maybe that definition
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:of addiction of using a medication for a purpose,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it's not intended, maybe a little needs a little bit more
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:granularity. And so it was the paradigm that they were in,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that created their desire to get out of their heads.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And if you go back to mammalian studies, you look at elephants.
Dr. Brad Miller:So just to hit pause just for a second you so you're saying that for,
Dr. Brad Miller:for instance, Vietnam, Korea, it was their environment,
Dr. Brad Miller:it was the context, it wasn't. It was the mental state that
Dr. Brad Miller:they you know, the actual external mental, or the external state,
Dr. Brad Miller:which impacted their mentality, which all had a significant
Dr. Brad Miller:influence on their choices to use opiates of some sort. Yeah.
Dr. Brad Miller:So then we're going to transfer this, that context that state,
Dr. Brad Miller:to when they came back to the states now. So go on and
Dr. Brad Miller:finish your thought there. I just want to kind of understand
Dr. Brad Miller:get my head around it. But we're talking about state here.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah. So it's, it's their, it's their paradigm. It's their physicality.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so there were another set of studies done. And this was
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:done on a rat model study, they took rats, and they threw them
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:into a glass case. And they gave them on one side, essentially
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:morphine water. And on the other side, they gave them water.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And they looked at the rats and the rats kept going back to the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:morphine water, and kept drinking it till they overdosed, and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:many of them died, and they lost all interest in everything else.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But the morphine water, they wouldn't take food, they wanted
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to get high, and drink the morphine water. And that was the original
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:concept, you expose an animal to a drug, it will take the drug and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:get high and die. And, and that's how we came up with the original
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:concept of addiction. They redid that study, though, and recently,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and they put the rats in a cage. And they gave them the opportunity
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:for morphine water or regular water. But at the same time, they
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:put other rats in there with them. And they put them in a maze, and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they let them play with other rats and have sex with other rats and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:play and, and be intellectually curious. And none of those rats took
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the morphine water, even though it was available to them. And so
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:what that tells you is that it's the boredom and it's the fear and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it's the despondency and loss of hope that creates the addiction,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:not the simple presence of the drug.
Dr. Brad Miller:So perhaps the lack of options or the perceived
Dr. Brad Miller:lack of options could have been there as well.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah, and so in my urban core practice, when I'm driving
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:down union in North St. Louis, um, you'll see young African
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:American kids who have no future who have no hope,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:dealing dope on the street, and doing dope, because they got
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:nobody else and no place to go. Because they don't perceive
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a future, they're despondent, and they have a tremendous loneliness.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:They're isolated socially, even though they might be next to the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:next dope dealer. They're internally lonely. And so my treatment
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:algorithm for addiction goes beyond the concept of break the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:addiction with chemistry, mind goes to look, we need to embrace
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:these people. And we need to give them hope. And we need to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:give them a future. And we need to integrate them into society in
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a way that they feel that there's a compelling reason why they
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:should reintegrate, once you do that, a lot of these aberrant
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:behaviors go away. And yes, there are about 4% of the people
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that are addicted, maybe 2%. But it's not 50% it you know, it's a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:much lower amount. And it's really the context of the patient
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in that environment, and the environment is a big chunk of it.
Dr. Brad Miller:Yeah, so you're describing a paradigm. Gurpreet, which integrates
Dr. Brad Miller:societal norms, with mental health issues with the emotional
Dr. Brad Miller:relationships that are positive, and uplifting that sense of hope,
Dr. Brad Miller:which could be described in some spiritual terms as well,
Dr. Brad Miller:in such a way in order to break their addiction, as opposed to
Dr. Brad Miller:only kind of a hard break of the chemical lock on the on the body.
Dr. Brad Miller:How does this compare to basically orthodox approaches to treating treating
Dr. Brad Miller:addiction is this go against the grain with it, or is this kind of an alignment
Dr. Brad Miller:with the Orthodox thinking?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So the Orthodox treatment of addiction, there's two
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:different ways that people go, um, one of the techniques is more of a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Alcoholics Anonymous and Narcotics Anonymous concept,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:which is, have a lot of social support, have it very regimented, and become
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:addicted to the group. So you change your addiction from the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:substance to the group, and then work your way out of that addiction
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:of the group. That's one way to do it. The other way is the medicalized
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:way, which a lot of my physician colleagues do, which is, I'm going to do
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:harm reduction, I'm going to give you a different drug that occupies a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:receptor in your brain, that gives you a similar dopamine release.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So you get a satiety of sensation, you get you get a you get a feeling
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that will not kill you. And all I've done is switched your addiction from
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a one drug to another drug. And maybe I can wean you off of a drug
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that's less deadly over time. But both of them ignore the fact that the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:patient has to go back home. And as soon as the patient is alone,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they're right back where they started. That's why the recidivism rates
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:are so high. And they fundamentally ignore some of the other issues.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Because these patients don't come into you. Purely with this with this,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:this, they they come into with severe other issues. And typically, it's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:metabolic inflammation, it's the food that they've been eating. So if you
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:look at their Omega six to three fatty acid ratio, you'll find out that they
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:are replete with vegetable oil. And they don't have very much Omega three,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you'll find out that they have metabolic inflammation, their HSCRP are high,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:their LDLPs are high. And there's biomarkers that we can identify.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And if you fix those biomarkers, you see a dramatic improvement.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:If you have high vegetable oil, you have poor cognition, you have poor
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:ability to delay gratification, you have a much higher degree of ADD.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:We see this in little kids as they enter school, they start off little children,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you know, babies are parasites, they suck all the nutrition from their mother
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in the womb, and they're born with a decent amount of Omega three.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And that's how they myelinate their brain. But by the time they're two to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:five years old, they've run out of the gas on that. And if you're eating
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:basically processed food with vegetable oil, you end up with a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:severe neuro inflammation. And you end up with a lot of add on
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and we see this criminal issues.
Dr. Brad Miller:Yeah, we see this in the end the situation you've mentioned here,
Dr. Brad Miller:I happen to be a pastor of an urban church in the inner city of
Dr. Brad Miller:Indianapolis, and I see my share of issues and problems all the time
Dr. Brad Miller:homelesses people with obesity and all kinds of issues. And you see
Dr. Brad Miller:that as well. And Chris is not just in the greater city, it's everywhere.
Dr. Brad Miller:But what you're talking about here is a really I mentioned it in what
Dr. Brad Miller:you've termed in some of your writing in some of your research, the
Dr. Brad Miller:collision of epidemics that are coming together. And we kind of see
Dr. Brad Miller:that manifested in the urban core sometimes, but it's really everywhere.
Dr. Brad Miller:So say a word about this collision, and how this collision is so destructive
Dr. Brad Miller:to individuals health and public health and ready for the greater good.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah, so we used to have a situation that we had malnutrition,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the fundamental basis of SNAP benefits, supplemental nutrition
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:benefits, was because we had malnutrition. And we started giving out
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:food stamps. Because we were transporting, we had an issue, we had a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Dustbowl in the United States in the Southwest, and we transport highly
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:processed food from the northeast by train, send it down to the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:southwest of the United States, because we're trying to keep the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:population alive. That was issue one, Issue two was that we had an issue
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:where about a third of army recruits, could not qualify to be in the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:armed forces, because they were too thin, and they had sarcopenic wasting.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so we had a national security issue. But then we've had a change,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:now we have the malnutrition of excess. And now half of the US army
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:recruits can't get into the US Army, because they're overweight, and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the SNAP benefits that were intended to take us out of malnutrition,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and sarcopenic, wasting and being too gone and then have flipped,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:because our commercial process food is, has a ton of calories in it, but
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:is nutritionally deficient. So we've increased the caloric density, we've
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:increased the vegetable oil, because it's room temperature stable.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But unfortunately, the side effect of that has been severe metabolic inflammation.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So we have this, these confluences of factors that end up causing
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:epidemics, and the epidemics that I'm specifically talking about is
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:obesity, diabetes, addiction, pain. And I would tell you, that part of
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the issue that we're dealing with, with the most recent viral issues with COVID,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and things of that nature, a lot of the patients that have had significant
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:issues with that are diabetics. obese, and they have pre existing
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:metabolic inflammation. And so the these are all collision
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:factors that relate to the mill you have the the food
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:environment that we're in.
Dr. Brad Miller:So the collision is not only in the edit and individual their
Dr. Brad Miller:choices, but it's also on the culture and the neighborhoods or
Dr. Brad Miller:neighborhoods, availability of their nutritional product.
Dr. Brad Miller:The SNAP program hasn't really worked as well or in
Dr. Brad Miller:the mindset that many would have tended to be, but also
Dr. Brad Miller:we have the correlation with the with the industrial food processing
Dr. Brad Miller:world and all the economic interrelatedness and all this type
Dr. Brad Miller:of thing you got governments involved and so on and, and real
Dr. Brad Miller:prices processing. So what do we, you know, it seems to me that
Dr. Brad Miller:there's got to be a multi pronged approach to this, we're going to
Dr. Brad Miller:do something about it. Gurpreet, it's got to be an individual decisions,
Dr. Brad Miller:it might be the family decision, but it has to be kind of decisions
Dr. Brad Miller:on a national multinational level among the agricultural complex
Dr. Brad Miller:that we have food food process complex. What do you think are
Dr. Brad Miller:some of the actions that that can be taken? Let's talk with
Dr. Brad Miller:individuals or families, what are some actions that people can do
Dr. Brad Miller:to respond to this collision? If you have a collision, that means
Dr. Brad Miller:something bad's happened? What are you going to do that?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So I think that we need to become more anti fragile.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I think that we need to look at our immediate environment and ask ourselves,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:what's going to happen when our food distribution systems collapse?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:What's gonna happen when we can't go to the grocery store
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and find the food that we normally find?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Because it's sitting in shipping container somewhere in Mexico,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and the borders are shut down? Yeah. And so
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I think that the solutions for a lot of this stuff is to bring
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:back Local production of food. And I don't see why every
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:household doesn't have its own garden or a few chickens.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I don't see why we can't bring back local production.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I recognize that that means that we're going to be eating seasonally
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and that we can't get avocados 365 days of the year from Mexico.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And that you know, we we may not be able to get peaches In February,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:because peaches aren't available in February. And so I think that we
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:need to go back to more of a seasonal eating concept. And I believe
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in my personal opinion, that we need to have a more regional food
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:production plant system. So that we're not having to, to essentially
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:hyper eat hyper processed stored foods. So I think that's part of it. And
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:so I've been working with local communities here in St. Louis,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:helping them develop local garden systems, helping design and develop
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in the urban core systems that where, if you aggregate blocks together,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in the center of the blocks, you put gardens, and on the rims of the blocks,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you put the housing, and so that you have shared common space in the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:centers. And that way, you know, the there are opportunities that you
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:can do urban zoning, with agricultural zoning combined.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And that's actually encouraged by the US Department of Agriculture,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:but nobody's really done it. But there are these urban agricultural
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:zones that are available. And so I think that that that would really
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:be beneficial. Once we get closer to our food production. I think a lot
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:of this stuff changes, once kids know where eggs come from, once kids
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:know how to grow food. Once we no longer are dependent upon
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:distribution systems for everything, I think it really improves the outcome.
Dr. Brad Miller:You could have also more of a weather called regional farming with
Dr. Brad Miller:distribution is more of a regional basis, where you could have the
Dr. Brad Miller:expansion of Francis farmers markets and things like that. In my town
Dr. Brad Miller:of Indianapolis, we got a few around the suburban areas, and we got
Dr. Brad Miller:one big one in the downtown area. But it seemed like even that could
Dr. Brad Miller:be expanded, you could have a bigger operation of those type of things.
Dr. Brad Miller:And to source that I know, I encountered a chef here locally, not too long
Dr. Brad Miller:ago, who cater some of the big hotels with the big events here, Indy 500,
Dr. Brad Miller:that type of thing. And they specialize in sourcing locally, and and
Dr. Brad Miller:then they didn't ever the market, because another piece of this is
Dr. Brad Miller:though marketing and that, you know, business side of it, that kind
Dr. Brad Miller:of thing, which be the push back. So let me look up, sir, go ahead, please.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I'm always amazed when I drive down the highway.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I look at all the greenery and the mowed grass on the highway.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And if that was India, that would all be farmland.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I mean, you guys have so much green space.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And you know, throw some goats out there.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:You know, why spend all that diesel fuel and all the petroleum
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to cut down the grass, when you could build, you know,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:places for birds to be and put some evergreen trees in.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And you know, why not put put in wildflowers so
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you can have bee populations. I mean, you've got tremendous
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:amounts of highway wasted. And I just don't understand
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:why we don't do that. I mean, it would improve the air quality,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:if you would then stop cutting the grass because cutting
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:grass uses petroleum. And if you want to reduce carbon emissions,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that would be an amazing way to do it. And so I mean, to me,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:those are the kinds of things that they're they're self evident.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:We have them, we have the capability to do it.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And we can put people to work. I mean, we could literally put people to work.
Dr. Brad Miller:We've integrated the irrigator grid, the whole ecological environmental
Dr. Brad Miller:issue, which is so important as well. I happen to have a son who's a
Dr. Brad Miller:grad school for architecture, but his specialty is sustainable,
Dr. Brad Miller:ecologically sensitive architecture. So this is the type of thing
Dr. Brad Miller:I think we're talking about here where everything has to be
Dr. Brad Miller:integrated together. So tell us I want to bring it down that
Dr. Brad Miller:we've talked about the macro for medic let's talk about the
Dr. Brad Miller:micro for just a second let's just say for instance, in the church
Dr. Brad Miller:that I serve we have a an after school program where we
Dr. Brad Miller:have any perfect does in the 25 or so after school young people
Dr. Brad Miller:almost entirely African American almost entirely from really
Dr. Brad Miller:tough home life and many of them you just noticeable are
Dr. Brad Miller:dealing with obesity and with other health related problems
Dr. Brad Miller:based on their family life. Let's just say one of the is often
Dr. Brad Miller:grandmothers who are raising these children. Let's just say
Dr. Brad Miller:there's a grandma who really wants to do something about it.
Dr. Brad Miller:You know, you've mentioned about putting the garden out
Dr. Brad Miller:that type of thing. But maybe they want to really leverage up
Dr. Brad Miller:what they can do and maybe there's other things that people
Dr. Brad Miller:can do you know, in whatever environment they have.
Dr. Brad Miller:Is there a change of diet I you know, we hear a lot about keto.
Dr. Brad Miller:We hear about intermittent fasting, things like this,
Dr. Brad Miller:or other things that that grandma can do to help implement
Dr. Brad Miller:her grandkids. First iffing Better grandkids?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah, I love that question because this is what I deal with every day.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:This is my entire area of, of effect. And so, and I deal with the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:grandmas, they don't necessarily bring me their kids, but they're
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:doing it for their children and their children's children.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Frequently, we'll see two to three levels of, of aging in a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:particular family unit. So we'll see great grandma, grandma
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and mother, and child in the same family unit. So here's the thing.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:The way that we're teaching kids to eat is wrong.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:If we start off feeding the kid sugar first thing in the morning,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they're going to be hungry all day. And Breakfast is the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:best meal of the day. For the cereal company. It's not the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:best meal of the day, for the kid. If we think historically,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:how we ate, nobody ate breakfast before 1940s.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:It was unusual feed breakfast until General Mills started
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:pushing that as a marketing slogan. So that's unique to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:marketing. That's not a scientific basis. Human behavior is
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that overnight, we're supposed to be in a fasted state.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And during that fasted state, we're depleting slowly the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:glycogen out of our liver, and the glycogen is being utilized
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:as fuel. And then in the morning, we're supposed to get up
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and move around and do activity, so that we can then
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:generate some calories that we can eat later on, perhaps
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:for afternoon or dinner. But we don't, we never had refrigeration.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Until recently, we didn't suddenly wake up in the morning,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:be able to go to the fridge and get some oatmeal that was
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:cooked and ready to go. That's unusual. And so we're not letting our
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:livers decompress from the glycogen. So one of my main things is
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I try to get my people to realize that time restricted nutrition is from
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a behavioral standpoint, and from a evolutionary standpoint,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the right way to eat. So I have my patients eat from a waiting
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:eating window of about 11am to about 6pm. And what that does
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:is it forces the tidy, because if you don't eat a bunch of food in the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:morning, and you start eating at about 11, and you're done by 6pm,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and you know that's your eating window, and then you don't snack
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:outside that window, it allows you adequate time, two thirds of the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:time to deplete the glycogen out of your liver, which then makes your
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:liver less insulin resistant. And if you're less insulin resistant, your insulin
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:levels go down. And most people don't realize this, but Insulin is a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:hormone produced by the pancreas. Its main goal is to cause fat
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:storage. It takes existing glucose in your bloodstream and forces it
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:into your liver stores as glycogen first and then overflows to fat.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And, you know, our issue is that we have about 500 grams of stored glycogen.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And most people because they forage all day long, and they they
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:eat all the way till bed. And they first thing they get up and they
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:eat first thing in the morning, their liver never ever depletes of glycogen.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:They never go into mild ketosis and mild ketosis is a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:normal state for human beings.
Dr. Brad Miller:Sure. What you're describing, what you're describing is,
Dr. Brad Miller:correct me if I'm wrong, basically, the formula
Dr. Brad Miller:for the Epidemic Of Type Two Diabetes is that yeah, exactly.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:You know, I can make anybody a type two diabetic, in a matter of
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:about a week and a half. If I give them a bunch of soda, a bunch
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:of sugar, like if I take a kid and give them six or seven sodas a day,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:which a lot of them have. And just keep them doing that for week on
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:week. They'll become insulin resistant in about two weeks.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I can push them and eventually deplete them of the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:insulin production in their pancreas. And there'll be type two diabetic.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And you can do that to anybody. It's a recipe to make diabetes,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it's easy to do. I'm reversing it is that is the challenge. And that's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:what we do we spend a lot of time getting that reversed.
Dr. Brad Miller:Well, let's, let's talk about that for a second course,
Dr. Brad Miller:the common approach, how to share with I'm a type two
Dr. Brad Miller:diabetic myself, okay, I'll just share that with you. I caught got it
Dr. Brad Miller:basically under control about 1215 years ago when
Dr. Brad Miller:I lost about 100 pounds, but it's still a part of my life.
Dr. Brad Miller:Okay, still a part of my life. So what do you say about the press,
Dr. Brad Miller:a lot of folks have a lot of doctors have, you know,
Dr. Brad Miller:all kinds of drugs and so on, so forth. And so injections
Dr. Brad Miller:and so on, like that? What part does that play?
Dr. Brad Miller:And as you did, I might hear more about your approach to the stuff.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So let me back up one step. And because I don't want people
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to get the wrong idea. We have two types of diabetes.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:We have type one diabetes, in which we essentially
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:do not produce insulin. And we have type two diabetes.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:In which we produce too much insulin, type one type
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:type one diabetes is typically seen in childhood, but it can
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:be seen in adults too. On type one diabetes usually occurs
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and the patient is extremely thin when they're diagnosed.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Why are they extremely thin, because they don't have any insulin.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Insulin is a fat storage hormone. However, as soon as we
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:start giving them insulin, and we give them too much,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they get overweight. So type one diabetics become
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:overweight, because we didn't know that part of things I didn't.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So you can go from being a type one to a type two diabetic.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:No, they're just overweight and type one they're overweight.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Okay, yeah, one. So what happens is they become
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:overweight after we give them the insulin, but no, they're not which
Dr. Brad Miller:other has other health matters, you know, manifest. Yeah,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it has secondary side effects. So when you see a type one diabetic,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that's getting really overweight, that's because
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:we're giving them too much insulin, which is causing
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:them to have fat storage, and left to their own devices.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Type one diabetics that don't have any insulin,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:become Cachectic. And they die of Cachexia and diabetic ketoacidosis.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Because they can't hold, they don't can't store the fat.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:They can't store the glycogen. And they go into ketosis,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:because they and their ketone levels are extremely high.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And you know, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, and their PH is very low, they're acidic,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and their mitochondria shut down. Because they can't process anything.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:That's a type one diabetic route, there was a Nobel Prize
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:awarded for the production of insulin, it was a Canadian
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that they came up with it. And the doctor that came up with it,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:realize what a profound thing it was, and he got the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Nobel Prize for it. And he said, You know what, this is such a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:profound thing. I'm going to give this insulin patent to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:these other companies. And these companies will forever
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:provide insulin to diabetics for free. And the companies
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:accepted this insulin patent, you know what they did,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they turned around and said, Yeah, we accept this insulin patent.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But we're not gonna produce that insulin, we're gonna
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:put this little variation of insulin that we added a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:little zinc to we added this to, that we're going to sell,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:but we don't make this cheap stuff over here that the patent was for,
Dr. Brad Miller:which is why pharmaceutical companies are so enormous, right?
Dr. Brad Miller:Or what leads to one of the factors, right?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So you know, they ended up getting the free patent and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:then switched around and sold the, the the insulin. So now
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:let's talk about type two diabetics. Alright, type two diabetics
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:are different creature. Type Two Diabetes, is insulin resistance.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:That's how it starts. And so what happens is, for whatever reason,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:there's a variety of reasons your insulin receptor doesn't work, right,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it doesn't see the insulin. So the receptors on one side,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the insulin is being produced by the pancreas, it's being produced,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:usually in response to the perception that the body is either
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:getting sugar, or that the body is going to get something
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that looks like sugar. And the pancreas produces the insulin.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And the insulin opens a receptor on the surface of the cell and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:allows the sugar to go into the cell. And at first, it's stored as glycogen.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And then if it's overflowed, it goes to fat. Okay,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:so that kind of makes sense, right? And what happens is eventually,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:over time, that insulin receptor doesn't work, right.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so the insulin receptor can't see the insulin, but the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:pancreas keeps piling on the insulin, the pancreas keeps piling
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:on the insulin and insulin level goes really, really, really high.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so a type two diabetic initially has too much insulin,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and the receptor doesn't work. A type one diabetic has no insulin.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And the receptor works really well. Okay, a type of diabetic
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:has too much insulin, the receptor doesn't work. And then
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:eventually the pancreas gives out and doesn't produce as
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:much insulin. So a type two diabetic, has a pancreas that
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:becomes fatigued, the beta cell doesn't work. For whatever reason,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I'll explain a couple things about that. And so then the insulin is
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:too high, and the receptor doesn't work. And the patient
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:continues to get fatter and fatter and fatter and fatter,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:more and more insulin resistant, and they get fatter.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I'm not talking about fat, like because somebody is fat.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I'm talking about a fatty liver. I'm talking about fat deposition.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so that's the issue
Dr. Brad Miller:that so that's the issue. What are we gonna do about it?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So what are we going to do? There's a couple things.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:One is understanding that we need to make the receptor more sensitive.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so the why is the receptor no longer sensitive,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it might be part of it. Part of the time, is that the surface of
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the hepatocyte the surface of the cells aren't, aren't mobile
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:like they're supposed to. They're not moving. There's a lipid
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:bilayer there, and it's made of fat. And that lipid lipid bilayer.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:If it's fixed, filled with oxidized LDL and filled with oxidized fat,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and filled with Omega six, that lipid bilayer doesn't move,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it becomes kind of frozen, it becomes static.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And it causes inflammatory change. And when it does
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that the receptor doesn't, doesn't take up the insulin like it's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:supposed to. So then you end up with insulin resistance.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And insulin resistance is really the receptor doesn't work,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and my insulin is too high. And so what we do is we try to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:restore the insulin sensitivity. And there's a whole host of
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:methods that we do that one of the methodologies is to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:use is to get their Omega six to three fatty acid ratio back to normal.
Dr. Brad Miller:So this is a medication or diet or both, or it's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:diet and medication, and very specific medication.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:It's not expensive. It's super cheap. It's called fish oil.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:It's really cheap. And some of the cheapest medications
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:that we have for diabetes, for
Dr. Brad Miller:sure yourself another were on audio, but I'll show you a video.
Dr. Brad Miller:This is what I keep on my desk right here, a little packets of
Dr. Brad Miller:fish oil, that's what I keep.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Oh, that's awesome. So I personally recommend
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:patients use krill oil, which is like fish oil, but has a terpene in
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it called acid Xanthine. They buy it online, as the correct
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:dose for most people is about four grams a day, even though
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the bottle says one gram a day the correct dose,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:unless you have a major cardiovascular problem, or
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:have a history of atrial fibrillation, the correct dose is
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:about four grams a day. And certainly I'm not giving
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:individuals health advice on this. But I understood like
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the but that's that's one of the recommendations that I make.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So we get you more insulin sensitive by changing the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:lipid bilayer. And that's part of it. And then at the same time,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:as you start to lose the weight, we pull a few grams of fat
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:out of your pancreas. And as soon as you remove a few grams
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:of fat out of your pancreas, 50 grams, 80 grams, it's a small,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:incremental amount, all of a sudden, the blood flow through
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the pancreas dramatically improves. And when it does, that
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:your insulin production capacity goes right back up. And so you can put
Dr. Brad Miller:your head on a pathway towards health at that point, is that right?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:You're back, then you're back on the correct pathway.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:We modify what you're eating, we do time restricted nutrition,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and we get you to the to the healthier fats that you're
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:supposed to eat. And I'm always surprised that how quickly
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:people reverse their diabetes, it happens literally in a matter
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:of a few weeks, as long as they're producing some insulin.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Now, if they're not producing any insulin, and they have zero
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:C peptide, then it's a lot tougher. And that's not going to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:reverse in the same way
Dr. Brad Miller:Speaking of reversing, and some good things are happening really,
Dr. Brad Miller:I'd love to hear a story. At this point.
Dr. Brad Miller:Gurpreet about a person or situation where they
Dr. Brad Miller:came through your teaching your program and your
Dr. Brad Miller:treatment. And you did see some really, you know,
Dr. Brad Miller:really some heartwarming change that took place in
Dr. Brad Miller:their life. And they came from a bad place or we're all
Dr. Brad Miller:about overcoming adversity, but you've seen their health
Dr. Brad Miller:change, maybe everything other paths, parts of our life
Dr. Brad Miller:change as well. Tell us a testimonial story about somebody
Dr. Brad Miller:that you've encountered.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah, so we have literally 1000s of those. If you go to my website,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:people do videos all the time. And we probably have
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:500 videos on my pain site, www.painmd dot tv.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But let me I'll bring it together for you. Because I think that there's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:more to the story. So you know, a lot of times people come in,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and they're 400 pounds, or 350 pounds. And it takes about 17 interactions,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to get them from that massive weight, to get them to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:understand what dietary interventions we're trying to get to,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:because they're very resistant. They're being marketed
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to by television. And they're being marketed to by our
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:mainstream media. And they're being marketed to by the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:drug companies. And by the big agricultural companies to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:eat all the time. And this pill or this injection, we'll fix it. Yeah.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And the thing is, if you have a fat doctor, he's not going
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:to tell you that you're fat. It he's gonna look at you and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:wonder, are you fatter than me? Are you skinnier than me?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And if he's, if he's fatter than you, he's never going to tell
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you that you're fat. And if
Dr. Brad Miller:you live in such, that's such an insight,
Dr. Brad Miller:it really isn't it, you know, yeah.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And if your nutritionist is overweight, they're not going to tell you
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:what to do either because they don't know. They're sponsored by
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:big agriculture. If you've ever been to a nutrition conference,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it's sponsored by Nestle. It's sponsored by big agricultural food companies.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Why am I not surprised? And so their recommendation is
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:130 to 150 grams of carbohydrate per day. For the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:diabetic patient, when in reality, glucose is not a nutritional
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:element that we need in our diet, it's not a it's not an essential
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:element, we have certain, you know,
Dr. Brad Miller:if I'm understanding your say they recommend 130 grams,
Dr. Brad Miller:you're saying basically almost zero or a little your body can
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:produce it, and you're going to still get some anyway.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I don't care how good you are, you're still going to get
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:about 20 grams a day, in the best situations in our society.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So you're going to get plenty, and your body can make glucose
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:through gluconeogenesis. So you don't need to go look for
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:150 grams, you're going to try to avoid that. And if you look,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:if you listen to your nutritionist, you're going to be in snacks
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:every two to three hours, because they want you to eat six times
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a day. And I only want you to eat twice a day. Because I want
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you to use satiety to keep your brain full, keep your stomach full.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I want you to have appropriate leptin levels.
Dr. Brad Miller:So you want that you want that to eat twice a day.
Dr. Brad Miller:But between that 11 and six window, right? Yeah,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:because I want you to have leptin sensitivity, I want your
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:brain to sense leptin. And so let's and we can really go down
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the rabbit hole, I could spend an hour or two just explaining to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you how leptin works, and it's back. But the issue is, I want to get
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:you as full as I can. And I want to keep you from being hungry.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So patients come in to me, they're massively overweight,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it takes about 17 times for them to understand what we need to do.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Because food is an addiction. The thing is, they add high fructose
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:corn syrup to food. The normal amount of fructose and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:high fructose corn syrup would be 55%, fructose 45% glucose.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But if you look at the average soda in the United States,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it's closer to 60%. They spend extra money to increase
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the fructose higher level than it should be.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Why do you think they do that? Because fructose affects
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the dopamine receptor more than glucose does.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And the higher the fructose, the more addictive that
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:substance potentially can be.
Dr. Brad Miller:So there scientists have done their research and
Dr. Brad Miller:they know what they're doing is what you're saying, yeah,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a lot of the scientists went from the cigarette industry to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the food industry, when cigarettes became taboo.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Now unfortunately, they're moving from the food industry to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the marijuana industry. So we're going to see some very interesting
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:things as in terms of patients desire and need for using
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:marijuana because a lot of the technology is moving
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:over to the marijuana industry
Dr. Brad Miller:is much, much more available and legalized now.
Dr. Brad Miller:But again, I really want to hear at least one story.
Dr. Brad Miller:Yes, feel free to but yeah, so first.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah. So that's why I'm getting to so you get these
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:patients, it takes them a while. And it's it's you got to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:break that addiction and addiction concept.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So I get these patients in the way a ton. And it takes a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:little bit to get through the process. What I found out one day
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:was I showed up at my clinic, it was early in the morning, and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I got there early, you know, I usually get there like 5:30 or 6:00.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But I was running a little bit late. But my clinic doesn't open till eight.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And I open the back door. And there's already people there.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And there's a revival going on in my lobby. It's my patients
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:they had collected together as a group. And they had been
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:going to church together, they had been losing weight together
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:because of our protocols. And they had been sharing this.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And they had decided to create an ad hoc group.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And they were sharing their stories in our front lobby.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And they had brought their kids.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And so that was what that was the critical moment.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:When I realized it. I had to go through the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:African American churches, because that's how
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I was going to be able, oh, man in a more significant way.
Dr. Brad Miller:That is so awesome to hear. That's
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:what it was. It was a massive trigger for me that
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I was like, Oh, hold on. I've been approaching this
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:in the wrong way. I'm approaching this from one on one.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And what I need is I need evangelists. And so I need to
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:it's awesome, evangelize for me. Give them the protocols,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:give them the credit. Give them all the tools, and then
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:stand back and let them ask questions of me to assist.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:But let them evangelize because I don't charge for that protocol.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Anyway. I'm not going to target word I want to help society.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:SHAN this adventure. That was a good finish no approach of
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:getting people to absorb this. Recognizing that it fits the paradigm.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:It fits the social isolation, it fits the food, and it gave people
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:a mission and purpose. I have a woman that is now you know,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:she weighed 450 pounds, she's down to 155 160. And she was
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:embarrassed to go out. And now she's a spoken word poet.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:She's a spoken she she does poetry herself and she's one.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:She's put herself out there. And now she realized how abusive
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:relationships she was in. And now she's empowering other
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:women to get out of these abusive relationships. See, in the
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:African American community, people sometimes hide behind
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:their weight because they're in abusive relationships,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and they're less likely to be abused if they're more overweight.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And that's something there's so much discovery along the way.
Dr. Brad Miller:I love what you're saying here because it's just so interconnected
Dr. Brad Miller:and interrelated, because we talked about, you know, some of
Dr. Brad Miller:the collision of all these bad factors. But the the response to is
Dr. Brad Miller:what you're hearing me what I'm hearing you say here Gurpreet
Dr. Brad Miller:is the response to it is the evangelistic thing, which is the
Dr. Brad Miller:coming together of the mental health, the emotional, the
Dr. Brad Miller:spiritual, the collective, the community. And that's part of what
Dr. Brad Miller:I teach is how these are all integrated together to help us get
Dr. Brad Miller:through adverse life events. And that that's awesome.
Dr. Brad Miller:I am so you know, I'm a bit of a student of this having been
Dr. Brad Miller:a diabetic myself for a number of years and dealing with this as well.
Dr. Brad Miller:But I'm so glad to hear this last part of our conversation
Dr. Brad Miller:about the evangelistic sensitivity and how basically, people
Dr. Brad Miller:were kind of having church based on what happened there
Dr. Brad Miller:because they saw results, they saw a life change happen in
Dr. Brad Miller:that that's awesome. So Gurpreet if people want to understand
Dr. Brad Miller:more about you and what you offer, how can they be in contact
Dr. Brad Miller:with you through your websites, or any other ways learn about,
Dr. Brad Miller:about the services that you offer? Or learn more about
Dr. Brad Miller:what you are about?
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:Yeah, so we don't charge for any of our protocols.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:So there's nothing you're ever going to pay me.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:We make it freely available.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And if somebody has a question, they can always
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:reach out to me my email, I love interacting, and helping
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:people it's our addiction site is www.addictionology.center,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:our diabetes site is www.reversediabetes.md.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:And my pain site is www.painmd.tv. And each one of them has
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:their own little niche. Um, certainly if we have to do
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:procedures or something like that we charge for the procedures,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:but as in terms of the protocols and the bio, the neuro behavioral
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:stuff that's freely available. And we have, we have video,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:we've got audio, we've got protocols. And if somebody has a
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:particular question, you know, I happily hop hop on a call and
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:have a conversation. I also work with a whole host of nonprofits.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I work with people that have been imprisoned improperly for
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:the for crimes they didn't commit. It's called exoneration nation.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:They're out of California. And, you know, they have their own issues.
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:I also deal with helping the urban American community
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:and the rural rural community that has a very similar
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:problem yeah, of disconnect in dietary intake. But,
Dr. Gurpreet Padda:but it's interrelated. Also to integrate, bring it up, yeah. And pull it
Dr. Brad Miller:integrated. And you've done a marvelous service here to our
Dr. Brad Miller:audience here on Beyond adversity, we'll put connections to
Dr. Brad Miller:all of your websites on our website, DrBradMiller.com.
Dr. Brad Miller:And I just want to say on behalf of a lot of folks,
Dr. Brad Miller:thank you for what you're doing, to look at things
Dr. Brad Miller:differently with a little different paradigm of this Inner Inner
Dr. Brad Miller:integrated paradigm here. And to help people to deal with this
Dr. Brad Miller:because it is an epidemic. I've seen it myself. It's my own family.
Dr. Brad Miller:I see it all the time in my church setting and the other groups
Dr. Brad Miller:I work with, and you're doing something good for the greater
Dr. Brad Miller:good, and I appreciate you. So thank you for being with us.
Dr. Brad Miller:Thank you for being with us today.
Dr. Brad Miller:Our guest today, on beyond adversity has been Dr. Gurpreet hada